It's Like "La Ronda" is in Jail.....

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I went to see La Ronda today. (Every photo taken was from outside the gates and on the street.) I hadn't been buy in a long while. First thing I noticed? A lot of houses for sale on Mt. Pleasant near La Ronda - or to me it seemed to be a lot. I almost got side swiped by an asshat in a silver Porsche who thought he was driving a slot car on a curve - he was more than half in my lane and zooming - and if he can't keep a car meant to hang tight on curves in it's lane, well, that is a menace who doesn't deserve a Porsche no matter what he thinks he can afford...but I digress.

So I drove onto Roscommon Road an parked. Me and a zoom lense stood outside the gate along with another photographer and snapped away.

La Ronda has a sadness now. And the no trespassing signs, while necessary along with the padlocked gates reminds me of a prison. La Ronda is in jail. Will someone Free La Ronda?

Honestly, I wish La Ronda would remain, but those people are hell bent on tearing her down. And while the idea of a foundation is nice, will Bruce Reed really raise the money? I hope he does because otherwise it's just too little too late and a lot of BS smokecreen self-serving political publicity.(The benevolent dictator and all that, ya know?) Why didn't Lower Merion do anything by now? La Ronda has been in flux off and on for what? Three decades? Why is historic preservation reactionary and not truly proactive? And why do we have to have so much development in our communities? Anyone interested now in Lower Merion in appending the Municipalities Code of PA with the ability to enact temporary development moratoriums? ( See HB 904, 2007 session) When I brought that up several times at various public meetings obver time in Lower Merion, the same pro-development commissioners waxing poetic over La Ronda now, basically scoffed at the idea. (And you all wonder why I am sick of going to meetings?) So who has egg on their faces now? Not I said the Carla bug. If they had supported Daylin Leach's efforts on this back then there would be yet another handy tool in the tool box. But noooooo...they always know better - you know kind of like they knew better on Blockbuster in Ardmore next to Ardmore Worst Shopping Center? You know how Blockbuster has that jailhouse aesthetic because it doesn't face the street? Whatever, just a mere mortal and a female, what do I know in the face of such "experts"?

I do feel at this point, the new owners are not best served by their anonymity. By now we all have heard a particular name bandied about off line and out of articles. Why can't the media or township hunt this down I wonder?

Anyway, enjoy the photos. And note that as opposed to some, I did not trespass. I took my photos from the street and did post- raw shot crops and close ups to get some of the detail I was after. The one thing I did not get a photo of is the woodchuck looking thing that lives in the middle of the lawn that runs along Roscommon Road.

I also took some miscellaneous shots of Waverly Heights along Waverly Road in Galdwyne. Man are they creating an institutional zone.

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PS this is what inspired me to go take photos from outside the gates- Cheryl Allison's wonderful article:

Main Line Times > News
La Ronda’s fate now lies in limbo
Published: Wednesday, June 24, 2009
By Cheryl Allison

To protect its many historical and architectural treasures, Lower Merion Township has backed off on protecting one of the most precious.

Faced with the clear danger of a legal challenge, the board of commissioners has not advanced a measure to upgrade the historic status of Bryn Mawr’s grand La Ronda estate.

Technically the matter before the board June 17 was a decision to authorize advertisement of an ordinance to amend the township’s Historic Resource Inventory, changing the status of La Ronda and several other properties, and to set a public hearing date.

With new objections raised by an attorney for La Ronda’s owners, however, the board moved forward only on a few non-controversial properties, in effect leaving action on La Ronda in legislative limbo.

La Ronda, at 1030 Mt. Pleasant Road, is the 51-room Spanish Gothic whimsy of a manor home designed by architect Addison Mizner, famed for his buildings in Palm Beach and Boca Raton, Fla.

Built in 1929 for leather-manufacturing magnate Percival Foerderer, it is believed to be the only surviving Mizner structure north of Florida. It has been listed on Lower Merion’s inventory as a Class 2 historic resource.

After it was quietly bought earlier this spring by a partnership identified only by the property’s address, the new owners filed an application for a permit to demolish the building. They plan to build a new, 10,000-square-foot single-family home on the site.

Under Lower Merion’s historic-preservation ordinance, a Class 2 structure such as La Ronda is subject to no more than a 90-day delay of demolition.

In May a room full of architectural and preservation leaders from the region applauded as commissioners voted to take the first step toward upgrading La Ronda to Class 1 status. Class 1 resources may only be demolished by permission of the board.

Even at that time it was recognized that the move might come too late to save the house. Because the owners had already filed the application to demolish, township solicitor Gilbert High had advised that it would take precedence over reclassification...Commissioner Liz Rogan -- again, not for the first time -- said she disagrees. “We’re not taking properties; we’re giving [owners] additional benefits” through incentives in the ordinance, she said. “We have a very specific and open process” by which classification is made, she added.

“This is a decision the board of commissioners made a long time ago, that historic resources are important to the community... and that we have a right to protect them," Rogan said. “I am willing to test our ordinance and go to court."

Although the threat to the ordinance of a legal challenge has often been raised, Martin Piltch, co-chairman of the township’s Historical Commission, urged the board not to delay action on La Ronda.

“A concerted effort is being made to raise funds to purchase La Ronda. If you do what you said, the property will change hands and it will not yet be a Class 1," he said. That was not the intention of the board’s action in May, Piltch said.

I have to say that I do not disagree with Liz Rogan here, so don't fall over from the shock. I am not saying I like this after the fact stuff, but Lower Merion does need to test it's ordinances once in a while. I want our historic resources protected, and I want preservation to stop being reactive first, proactive last. In other states and communities property owners seem to be able to balance preservation with property rights, so I would like that balance to be achieved here as well, wouldn't you?

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Regardless of how one views La Ronda (I would love to see it preserved even though I have problems with Forced Historic Certification in regards to property rights), the legal problem Lower Merion has is that it went about certifying La Ronda as Class 2, someone bought it and decided to tear it down, and now the township wants to reclassify it Class 1 so the owner can't tear it down.

The owner bought it knowing it was Class 2 and he/she could legally tear it down as Class 2. The township made a point of classifying La Ronda Class 2. I see the township as being at fault and they are the ones to blame for not previously classifying La Ronda Class 1.

From the research I did, if La Ronda was already Class 1 when the owner bought it, then the owner could not tear it down. That part of the ordinance is valid from the case law I read.

However, the legal problem is reclassifying a property that the township already historically certified as Class 2 and now wants to make Class 1 after someone bought it and the township found out the owner wants to demolish.

That won't stand up in court. The only argument the township could make it that it meant to make La Ronda Class 1 but made a mistake, but the owner will counter he/she bought it knowing it was Class 2 and the township is only now seeking Class 1 because the owner is doing what is his/her right to do under Class 2.

The federal government is prohibited from passing ex post facto laws by Article I, section 9 of the U.S. Constitution and the states are prohibited from the same by clause 1 of section 10.

Thus, the township has no legal standing and Liz Rogan, as usual, is talking gibberish.

And yes, once again we see a commissioner yet again not obeying his/her oath of office to "support, obey and defend" the Constitution.

As James Madison stated in Federalist No. 44:

Bills of attainder, ex-post facto laws, and laws impairing the obligation of contracts are contrary to the first principles of the social compact, and to every principle of sound legislation.... [T]he sober people of America are weary of the fluctuating policy which has directed the public councils. They have seen with regret and indignation that sudden changes and legislative interferences, in cases affecting personal rights, become jobs in the hands of enterprising and influential speculators, and snares to the more industrious and less informed parts of the community. They have seen, too, that one legislative interference is but the first link of a long chain of repetitions, every subsequent interference being naturally produced by the effects of the preceding. They very rightly infer, therefore, that some thorough reform is wanting, which will banish speculations on public measure, inspire a general prudence and industry, and give a regular course to the business of society.

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I agree with that. These photos are gorgeous and it looks like the house is a real treasure. But those that own it have the legal right to tear it down, and reclassifying it in order to get them to stop would not be just.

However, this brings up and interesting point. If the township does ever wish to reclassify a building to a higher protected status, when is the fair time for it to be done? There is always going to be an owner of a property, and it will always be unfair to impose new limits on what he or she may do with the property.

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LexoTime5 - you and poilteia are both right...and I wish I had answers...but alas I can't get anyone to answer my own burning question which ties to what you said: why is it that historic preservation around here always seems more REACTIVE than PROACTIVE?

I believe in historic preservation. But I think the system is broken, but how do we fix it?

PS thank you very much for the compliments on the photos....
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Say, here's an idle question that I do not mean to be loaded:

I've Google mapped La Ronda and I see it's in a fairly unaccessable neck of town. Not well trafficed, shall we say. If a place such as this comes under class 1 historical protection, who benefits? What people get to come see and/or tour a class 1 site? I could understand the benefit better if the historical site was a public building, or in use as a museum, or in a public part of town. By bestowing a class 1 historical designation, is the township providing any sort of benefit to the township residents whatsoever, be it aesthetic, pedagogical, etc.?

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Good question...maybe someone should ask the LM Hysterical Society...and say, look at their new slate of folks that will be coming up as directors. I wonder, is that a conflict if the Prez of the LM BOC is on as a Director to be?

Officers, Directors and Committee Assignments
Effective April 2009

Officers:
President - Gerald A. Francis
Vice President - Ross L. Mitchell
Treasurer - John B. Hagner
Corresponding Secretary - Stephen P. Selinger
Recording Secretary - Barbara McElroy
Immediate Past President - Edmund L. Goldsborough

Directors:
Class of 2010 - Max Buten, Alison Graham, Leon Levine
Class of 2011 - Andrew Amsterdam, Denise H. Francis, Bruce D. Reed
Class of 2012 - Dennis Montagna, Joanne Murray, Anna O'Hor

I wonder, would our historic preservation efforts be more effective if certain lines and boundaries weren't so, shall we say, blurred?

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Ok as per flickr, this photo set has had 1077 views since posted - and that was just Saturday...wow - that is crazy.

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Like I posted before. Your views about La Ronda are certainly not unpopular.

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La Ronda, thanks for the memories
Published: Wednesday, June 24, 2009
By Susan Greenspon, Editor

More than 25 years ago I was among the many curious area residents who descended on La Ronda one winter afternoon to tour it during an open house. The 51-room mansion and its outbuildings were for sale, and no part of the 14-plus-acre Bryn Mawr estate was off limits.

The first reaction upon entering the cavernous main hall of the 14,000-square-foot Spanish-style mansion was “How the heck do you heat this place?”

Oh, how bourgeois. If you could afford to live here, you could afford to heat it, one of the friends in our group answered.

We quickly got caught up in the wonder of La Ronda, marveling at such exquisite details as its stone floors, massive fireplaces, staircases, ornate doorways and windowsills and its fairy-tale turret room with windows overlooking the grounds and bare trees on this chilly day.

We truly were inside a magical castle and the castle was right here on the Main Line.

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Main Line Times > Opinion
Reader’s Response: Sad to lose La Ronda
Published: Wednesday, June 24, 2009
By Susan L. Gay

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