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Are We Experiencing Lack of Sunshine Too? Does the gauling behavior know no end even in the face of evil spying laptops and the Doe case?

So first we had Unified Slate. Unified Slate was replaced by "C.A.L.M.", and that morphed into "Reasonable Parents", who in turn created a cheerleading site for the always innocent and fair Lower Merion School District on Facebook and then we had the "petition", and now (drum roll please, from the parents who apparently never sleep)....LMSDPARENTS.ORG and a whole NEW petition on survey monkey! Add to that it appears good old Richard Wells (used to be publicist for Bryn Mawr Hospital during the let's-tear-down-affordable-housing-in-Bryn-Mawr-phase and doesn't like being called old) and some woman named Lynn Rappaport Thames (hope she wasn't related to that old deceased skunk Sam?) are busy little beavers posting hither and thither.

So when someone sent me this link overnight, my eyes popped: here is this group calling itself a ORG (which I thought was only for non-profits?), advertising a public meeting on a public topic about a public school district only all the public can't attend? Seriously? Isn't that funky sunshine? What do these people get out of this with their blind devotion? See:

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In addition....A new e-mail is circulating - it says "pass it on" sooo....
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Ok, so if Tom Grady is the mayor of Narberth, that makes him an elected official, right? So why would an elected official get all messy in a school board issue when the school board is supposed to be autonomous from the Township of Lower Merion and the Borough of Narberth? Is this like last year when Bruce Reed waved a magic wand over Unified Slate? I am confused so I hope someone has some clarity...

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Mayor Grady's children attend(ed)Harriton.

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Hmmm.

My number one reaction upon reading this announcement and learning of this newly formed '.org' is suspicion.

Clearly the goal of this group is to blockade the formation of a 'class'.

That raises an immediate suspicion with me as to whether this is truly an independent, 'grassroots' group or perhaps part of a subterfuge being generated by the District's defense attorneys.

And incidentally, amongst the endless spin emanating from the LMSD PR department, have they announced who their defense attorney(s)is and I missed it?

They announced who they have hired to investigate themselves but I don't recall any mention of who is handling their defense.

Bizarre as it seems to hire someone to investigate oneself, could things be even bizarrer and the 'investigator' is also defending them?

Further of note, so now they are composing a 'new petition'. I still maintain that the previous one was not a petition. A petition is primarily a 'request'. That was four paragraphs of allegiance to the district followed one containing a vague request to settle without litigation. It failed to identify to whom the so-called petition is being addressed.

So the question remains. Who are they 'petitioning' and who is this 'petition' being sent to?

All the parents of kids who might qualify for the 'class'?

To the Robbins to back off and withdraw their lawsuit?

Both?

The last document that Carla reproduced above amused me no end.
The unidentified author, in his closing statement says:

"We will need all of you, and many others, to spread the email letter around when you receive it, in the hopes that it goes "virile" . ROFL!

Now that is a good one. An email letter gaining"virility". Might I suggest that they could save bandwidth and just inject it with Electronic Viagra?? ROFL!!

Obviously you meant "viral", sport, whoever you are.

While I wish them all the best, I have my doubts of their prospects for success.

So far they've composed a petition that wasn't really a petition.
And then have sought an electronic erection for an e-mail letter.

Really makes you wonder about the education level of the folks involved there.

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Also not to be missed is the inevitable and unavoidable gaining of brownie points in the minds of the teachers and administrators by the members of this ".org", as well as all the signers of the petition, which becomes relevant when future grading or disciplinary issues may arise with their kids.

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Good point about brownie points for their kids who need college recommendations.

Had it not been for this lawsuit, we would not have known about the spying laptop problem. The Robbins have done us a service and now the wagons are being circled rather than addressing the issue directly. "Mistakes were made and they won't happen again." would be a start.

Did the School Board members approve this program? Were they not given all the information including information about the webcam and security capabilities?

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Here's the WHOIS record for that domain:

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I too would like to know what Mayor Grady thinks he's doing. It's scary when an elected official says that spying is okay.

Also, I checked out Bob Wegbreit. Semes he is on Narberth Borough's Council. What?

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Whoa ho ho, dmuth. You the man.

So what you've uncovered is that the Mayor and a Council member are the actual kingpins behind the formation of this 'grassroots' group.

Well, this is scary not only for the reason that you point out, but look at the potential for influence it has with the LMSD on the many issues that Narberth has going with the District.

The whole thing has not just an odor but a stench about it.

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Some points, please:

Grady and Wegbreit are both parents of high schoolers.

The language of LMSDParents.org is very different from the language of the ipetition.

At least as they are billing it, the meeting is open for parents to express whatever view they might have.

The idea of Narberth Borough having influence on the LMSD is.... absolutely laughable.

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Thanks. That is all helpful to know.

Also, since Carla mentioned the .org domain extension, while it was originally intended for non-profits, in common usage, it's pretty much considered "ok" to use that domain for anything that is not a commercial venture. (Case in point, I have dmuth.org for personal use, and I know other folks who do the same thing.)

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Grady and Wegbreit are both parents of high schoolers

All well and good. They are also both elected officials of a govenmental/political entity that has ongoing business and negotiatons with the Lower Merion School District.
While this may not require recusal, it certainly does raise questions of conflict of interest in my mind.

They themselves believe they have covered this with a disclaimer at the very bottom of the LMSDparents.org webpage.

I believe it only stands to reason that if a future issue between Narberth and LMSD comes down to an absolute tossup of grant/deny, that the fact that the Borough of Narberth has backed up the District in this laptop matter cannot fail to have some measure of influence in Narberth's favor.

I am no legal expert. That is just my layman's opinion.

While I certainly do not believe that their official capacities deny them the right, as parents, to sign any petition, I am not comfortable with their roles as activists of this group.

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The school district has hired the law firm of Ballard Spahr to investigate this matter and to defend it in the litigation. Conflict of interest?

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Since someone asked about Lynn Rappoport Thames - she is not the most popular gal at the prom down in Penn Wynne - she was the campaign/communications director for the Unified Slate. Here is her website: http://www.lynnthames.com/ - don't know her, never met her, don't want to.

Also on the e-mail I have seen floating around about this Lisa Fair Pliskin's husband is openly on it. Now she is on the school board and is part of that Unified Slate, right?

Someone said in e-mail:

I'm a little confused about Grady's involvement. Is he involved as the mayor or as a private citizen? Was Boro Hall rented by a private group in accordance with Narberth Boro rental policies or is it being given to Grady to use at no charge because he is the mayor?

The answers to these questions are critical.

I'm asking this NOT because I have a problem with any group organizing to discuss and formalize their opinions. After all, before this situation became so convoluted with people's electric bills and every other bit of nonsense, it was about our rights. I respect this group's rights 100%. But the method and circumstances confuse me.

Can someone shed some light?

One last point, it says this is for LMHS parents. Are HHS parents being excluded or was this just an error?

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Mr. Grady is also the Chief of Police in our small borough. How is his "community organizing" playing with other law enforcement agencies?

Have we all forgotten that there is a very real investigation by the DA's office and the FBI going on here? Of which no reports or statements have been made. Still no closer to knowing who took or how many photo's there are OR of whom and what age they are. If any.

Are these people involved in this group, aware that there are strong guidelines as to how a judge can and will proceed in this spying case, and with regard to what meets the protocol of class action?
No amount of signatures is going to sway a seasoned jurist away from the letter of the law. They can sign until their hands are red, not gonna change the law.

Are these LMSD parents aware that they don't have to join in the class action suit?

Am I the only one who believes this meeting is about taking the pulse of the community, to see who still supports the School Board?

Many on the original e mail list would do the same as the Robbin's family in a NY minute if it were their child involved. (I know many of them)

Enough of attacking the victim.
Let's stick to the process, and wait for the FBI report and be quiet.

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Maybe it's just me, but I don't see anything pernicious or dangerous in this meeting. Someone familiar in the law in this area posted the following:

Some things to consider about opposing the class action: 1) The class’s opposition to the certification is relevant to whether the class will be certified; 2) However, assuming the class is certified (big assumption), usually, you have to stay in the class action to object to the settlement, including attorneys’ fees, expenses etc. Therefore if the class is certified as an opt out class action, (meaning class members are in the class unless they specifically opt out) and class members decide to opt out of the class action as a means of voicing their objection to the class action, then they lose the ability to oppose the settlement unless they can show some type of legal prejudice like legal rights being taken away (that your taxes are going to go up is unlikely to cut it).

http://groups.google.com/group/pennwynneparents/browse_thread/thread/29f622345d72b375?hl=en

To me, this meeting actually seems to have a point, and its focus explains why no efforts were made to open it to any and every interested party since only families with current high school students can be joined in the class action suit, voluntarily or otherwise.

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This reminds me of the recent Bashore debacle in Radnor where Radnor residents did not want to admit there was a problem. They were in denial and wanted the investigation kept secret because they did not want it known that Radnor was not a perfect place. They were more concerned about how their community looked, and in turn how they looked and they could have cared less about justice - which in the end showed Bashore illegally looted hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars.

The difference here is we have elected public officials coming to the defense of LMSD. First Bruce Reed and numerous L.M. commissioners supported the Unified Slate (back when several Unified Slate school board members communicated in emails we have just seen that they knew the redistricting was illegal but did not expect to get sued) and now we have Narberth Mayor Tom Grady and one of his cohorts asking for citizens to put peer pressure on their neighbors to stop a class action when we really don't know the extent of the wrongdoing.

For all we know (and I'm not saying this is true) LMSD has done pervasive spying via webcams on students in their homes - and including in various stages if dress and undress.

Isn't Grady a lawyer? How can he be so stupid so as to take such a tremendous leap of faith when we have already seen so much incompetence by the school district?

I would advise parents in Lower Merion not to sign any petition against a class action, because if this turns out to be a lot worse than this initially appears, youy names will forever be on the internet as not supporting justice in what could possibly turn out to be very, very serious wrongdoing by LMSD.

As far as a group forming that does not take sides, but wishes to seek justice, I think that would be great, but I think we all know this is a very biased group with an agenda that could well end up blowing up in their faces.

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I would advise parents in Lower Merion not to sign any petition against a class action, because if this turns out to be a lot worse than this initially appears, youy names will forever be on the internet as not supporting justice in what could possibly turn out to be very, very serious wrongdoing by LMSD.

Sadly, the results of that little petition seem to be non-publicly viewable.

Once the list of signatories is published though, I intend to post it on this website.

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The current petition does not call for an end to the investigation. It does not absolve any school district associate of wrongdoing, or ask for them to be absolved. It doesn't even express support for the school district in any way.

If someone wanted to express distaste for the class action, and opposition to monetary punitive damages, what would be the way to do this? Seems to me this current petition is reasonable. What am I missing?

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To tell you the truth, this whole thing leaves a bad taste my mouth. Maybe it's just because I've been exposed to too many astroturfing campaigns in my time. Maybe part of it is because this sort of abuse of technology makes my brain twitch every time I think about it. I dunno.

Another look at the petition shows in question #3 that they state they "will not share or sell this list". So that makes my idea of posting the list a moot one. Oh well.

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I agree with you, LexoTime5. For those of us who are potential plaintiffs, it could be informative. The potential plaintiffs may want to join together and get an attorney to protect their kids' rights outside of the one selected by Mr. Robbins (and no, I am not seeking the gig, I am not in private practice). That attorney could help coordinate testing a sampling of laptops, in coordination with law enforcement agencies and the school district-- to do the kind of investigation suggested on this blog. The difference is that investigation would be both legal and admissible.

As for the petitions, they are unlikely to have any legal affect with respect to the class. The Court will require an approved opt-in or opt-out form because in all class actions a waiver must be knowing and in a specified format. Without the class defined (i.e. is it all parents, parents with laptops, just those whose webcams were triggered, or only those that were triggered in a place where there is an expectation of privacy etc…), it is impossible for the petition itself to serve as a knowing waiver. The undefined class and class claims is simply too amorphous at this point. The petition is, however, a way to gather a group of people together who would like this matter looked into in another way (and a way that will cost less taxpayer money) or at least better understand what a class action means.

Finally, this meeting does not implicate "sunshine"—as it has nothing to do with access to governmental records. My spouse and I are private citizens entitled to meet with other parents and discuss what is best for our high school aged children. If some of those parents also have official roles, that doesn't undermine their rights as parents to congregate with other parents and figure out what is the best thing to do now, given what we have learned. If the class action goes forward, non-parent groups (including the newspapers) will invariably try to intervene in the class action and get all school district records unsealed. Those groups will get some information, but that might be less than a group of affected parents will get. Even the greatest champions of "sunshine" must realize that the public's right to know should not trump the right of groups of potential victims’ right to meet in private and make informed decisions which may affect their minor children.

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From your comment, it's clear that I didn't understand this meeting or petition quite as well as I thought I did. Mea culpa.

(And I'll try to shut up for the rest of this thread)

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The petition states:

We are aware of the lawsuit Robbins v. Lower Merion School District. We seek a resolution of the webcam issue that is in the best interests of our children and the Lower Merion School District, one that does not involve the class action lawsuit.

If these parents are saying that they want to get their own counsel if more serious wrongdoing is found, that is fine. They should not have to join the Robbins class action.

However, I do not see any statements or wording anywhere in the emails by this group to indicate as much, but maybe I missed it.

The impression I get from these emails is that this group wants to downplay this rather than protect the interest of children and their parents, but maybe I am wrong.

I think this group needs to provide some clarity because what they are doing is quite public at this point.

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Politiea, if you think parents are being mislead perhaps you should contact this group and see what they say (they may not answer because you do not have an affected child and that is their perogative this is not a governmental entity just a group of parents). To me it seems very simple, it is a parents-only meeting to discuss the class action and discuss other alternatives. There is nothing wrong with that. If anything, you should encourage people to become active!

I also do not think it is fair for you to say this group, which is a group of parents of children with these laptops, are not interested in protecting the interests of their children. You have no basis to suggest or even imply that. I assume every parent has their children's interest first and foremost in their minds. That interest is actually MORE important than more publicity or or "up-playing" (versus "downplaying") this issue. Many people, including me, do not want to become public advocates just protect their children and are much more willing to speak up in a private meeting. Again, nothing wrong with that.

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Fair enough. I would hope and trust Grady is well meaning. I have no reason not to think so outside of the fact that these communications seem awful vague.

If, however, more serious wrongdoing were found out and I had a child with one of these laptops I'd call my own lawyer to solely represent the interests of my child. The Robbins' lawyer obviously has his own agenda, and elected public officials can very easily have their own agendas behind whatever they tout as their agenda.

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Thank you for your reply. There is an old Main Line joke: when two or three Main Liners are gathered together, a gin and tonic shall be among us. That could be updated to: when two or three Main Liners are gathered together, a lawyer shall be among us.

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Yo Carla: What's with the hatefest with Lynn Thames, she's a personal friend of mine and a wonderful person. I know Lynn Thames and you are no Lynn Thames

Chill out dude! I don't think Lynn is doing anything but informing concerned taxpayers that there is an opportunity to hear what others have to say in support of LMSD (rather than the biased media depiction of the School District) She hasn't rendered an opinion, quite the contrary, she's attempting to dissuade the hysteria and basically reiterate that we should NOT be so quick to form an one!

Your posts will garner more respect if you don't insult others. If you're confident in your views, then by all means share them, rather than dismiss those of others. Referring to people who offer opposing views in a condescending manner, will likely lead to people to just skip over YOUR posts, certainly not your goal.

Funny thing is...I actually think YOU'RE the one who's on all night posting, my friend.

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Carla,

What is your problem? Why are you picking on Lynn Thames? Has she ever done anything to you personally?

Lynn is an involved, concerned citizen who acts and speaks within accordance of the Constitution of the United States. She is not trashing people the way you and the paranoid masses from this particular website are doing. She walks the walk. She volunteers her time for the schools and the community in a positive productive manner. All I see you doing is complaining and attacking. Why are you using her as a scapegoat?

This group should really investigate who they are aligning themselves with. You are going to end up with egg in your face that you sided with the Robbins family. I am sure the Robbins' would not go to bat for you.

Now stop personalizing your causes and stick to the issues. You should be thanking Lynn instead of vilifying her.

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This group should really investigate who they are aligning themselves with. You are going to end up with egg in your face that you sided with the Robbins family. I am sure the Robbins' would not go to bat for you.

That's awfully vague. Is there something you'd like to tell us? Seriously, if there's something you think we should know about the family, spit it out. No need to be cryptic about the matter. I mean, clearly you know something about the family which you are not telling us. So what is it?

I also find it suspicious that completely out of the blue are two comments in support of this Lynn Thames person.

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Defamation of the Robbins family only serves to distract one from the only pertinant issue which is:

"What was the LMSD doing vis-a-vis the surveillance capabilities of the laptops."

Seeking an answer to that question is not, as that statement implies, 'aligning oneself with the Robbins family" nor is it "going to bat for the Robbins family".

From what I've learned so far of the Robbins family, I doubt that I would like them if I got to know them. That makes me no less interested in finding out whether the LMSD violated their Constitutional rights as well as the rights of perhaps other students. And no less anxious to see justice served if the LMSD is guilty.

This issue is not about the Robbins family and their character, background, finances or anything else about them (or any other family that joins the 'class' should there be class action.

This issue is solely about the LMSD and what they have or have not been up to with the webcams.

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I somewhat agree, but also disagree ... as lead plaintiffs the Robbins family will be the one negotiating with the class' lawyer to achieve a settlement. In addition, as lead plaintiff, they are entitled to more compensation than any other member of the class. With regards to the legal process that makes their motives and interests of interest to me as a parent/taxpayer in lower merion. I really object to class action lawsuits where the lead plaintiff (and the attorney) get cash, while the rest of the class gets coupons or less... that could easily be the case here. In any event, a cash settlement from this case would be paid by all taxpayers, minus 1/3 to the lawyers and then distributed to taxpayers with children in high school... not a fair outcome in my mind.

None of that takes away from the investigations (DA, FBI, and private) that I am sure will get to the bottom of this. More than one poster has suggested that parents who are waiting for the facts to comeout are defending/hiding the district's actions,not tue in my case - I think a little grain of salt would do well here, given who the plaintiffs are and what facts are out there.

I will wait for the results of the investigation and make a judgement then. The Robbins could be perfectly upfront in this case despite an awful lot of problems fulfilling their obligations to the township, government, PECO, and a host of others in the past. I will give them the opportunity to pursure this. If it turns out to be total BS though, we live in a legal system that makes it difficult or impossible for the LMSD to recover its legal expenses defending a suit like this (should it be total BS).

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The school district certainly has some "splaining" to do, but at the end of the day it is likely the facts will show no conspiracy of evil to invade the privacy of students, but rather an inept adminsitration that failed to protect itself against those who make a living exaggerating & exploiting the mistakes of others for personal gain.

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Oh, the District has already, since the beginning of the day on this issue, been doing plenty of "splaining". When I see BS and spin such as has been issued forth by their PR department, I reach for my shovel and my gas mask.

Solely for the reason that we are seeing investigations underway by the DA, US Attorney, FBI and other law enforcement agencies, as well as subpoenas issued, I believe there has to be some concrete evidence of wrongdoing and that this is more than a frivolous lawsuit by the Robbins, as you seem to believe it is. An investigation of this magnitude is not launched upon unsupported accusations and these agencies do not investigate for mistakes made by bumblers, they look for criminal violations. So no, even though all any of us can do is speculate at this point, I'm not buying that.

My main interest in this case is seeing the results of the criminal investigations and if criminality is proven, that justice is exacted. As to the Robbins, whether they get redress, well that is a matter for them to deal with. If, on the other hand, the District is found to have done nothing whatsoever wrong and the suit was without merit, then I think the District would have a valid claim to recover costs as well as compenstion for the adverse publicity generated against it.

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Hey, Carla. I don't mind being mentioned on your blog, but, really, did you have to call me "old?" That hurts.

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Richard,
It is old NOT as in years but as in "good old" as in we've seen you before, familiar person to the LM scene....not as older than dirt old- ROFLMAO - glad to hear you don't mind being mentioned in the blogs.

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I am not a parent of high school age children, and I have nothing to do with the group putting on this meeting. I also am not a defender of the school district's recent theft recovery camera program, and I hope it goes without saying that I similarly would not defend any abuse of that program.

However, I do not believe that the heaping-on of damage award claims and class action will help whatever situation there is with the laptops at the high school. I believe the FBI investigation will turn up any criminal wrongdoing, and I can't believe they would go easy on the school district; and I believe the residents of Lower Merion should hold the school board accountable for inappropriate policy or lack of oversight. But I do not believe that the family, or lawyers, or anyone else deserves a big pay day from the school district and the taxpayers who fund it just for uncovering and publicizing a bad, illegal, or unconstitutional policy.

If you are a parent or guardian of a high school student at either school in Lower Merion school district I think you should attend the meeting tonight at 7:00 at Narberth Borough Hall. I believe the organizers are well-intentioned, and that the meeting is not about white-washing anyone's responsibility over the spy-cam issue. It has only to do with concern over the class-action and punitive damages portion of the suit.

I also believe that this meeting will allow for differing points of view. Even if you disagree with me I still advise that you go and make your opinion known.

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Why isn't anyone talking about who did this? Really, who cares what Tom Grady and Bob Wegbreit do. Everyone knows Bob backed the Unified Slate, and Tom is just doing what Tom does. The ACLU and FBI aren't worried about meetings in Narberth.

Why are talking about PECO bills and damages and not about who allowed this to happen? Who decided to buy this software? The board members voted and signed off on an actual expense to purchase this stuff. Why did they let that happen? Where was the discussion? They knew exactly what they were buying - they go through the bills in minute detail. What happened?

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MomOf5 you are absolutely right -- this IS all a side show circus -- the issue is what happened, why it happened, and why things like this are happening to begin with.

Just like with the Students Doe case and the case brought to court by Concerned Black Parents in the past, where is the accountability of the school board and the district? Now of course you add to that the crane accident the other day at Lower Merion High School. Maybe it is time for a clean slate in Lower Merion School District? And lest we forget, a lot of these things started with Jamie Savedoff, who has a pension on Lower Merion.

I think this meeting just bothered me because no matter WHO you are in Lower Merion, if you are a resident, you ARE affected by what the school board does and the money they spend....anyway I will be interested to hear what people thought of the meeting.

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Had it not been for the lawsuit, we would have not know about the spycam problem.

The LMSD parents opposing the lawsuit may have a point but it was not they who informed us, citizens and taxpayers, who have a real and direct interest in what is being taught, what is being learned, and what is being done at LMSD.

One wonders what the School Board members knew, and when they knew it.

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If I wanted people to know about something, I would not file a lawsuit in federal court. Would you? I would write letters, call the School District, call the media, blog, etc. The courts do not exist to publicize disagreements that people have with authority.

By the way, The Robbins' may be suing themselves in their suit but since they don't pay their taxes, they won't be paying for the damages.

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You are correct Voice, I would do all of that. I don't think the Robbins family did any of that first, but I could be mistaken. That adds to my cynicism about the class action suit.

It should be noted that there are numerous other instances where blogging, media, and calling the school district, speaking at a school board meeting, about a concern has had no effect whatsoever; and have thus resulted in ongoing lawsuits: Blunt, Doe, Croyle, Narberth School... couple others. Remains to be seen whether Beaumont runoff situation will be resolved through the means you are suggesting or whether it will go to litigation.

Now that you mention it I am hard pressed to recall any major concern expressed through letters, phone calls, blogs, speeches etc., that have been resolved by those means alone. The school board is not very interested in hearing from people whom they do not already agree with.

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