What's happened to news reporting on the Patch?

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Since Nathan Susanj left Ardmore Patch there hasn't been much hard news reporting. The home page is populated with restaurant "reviews" and "Moms Eat Local." I'm not terribly interested in reading reviews of restaurants that have been here forever, like Fellini's cafe. http://ardmore.patch.com/

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Yep and that moms eats local gal did this big glowing piece of happy horse sheit on Fellini didn't she?

http://ardmore.patch.com/articles/meet-the-chef-and-owner-giuseppe-dalto-of-fellini-cafe-trattoria

 

.... and I wonder at a bare minimum if she had read the health department reports  http://tinyurl.com/felliniardmore

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Like you'd want to take your kids to Fellini's anyway - the tables are too small and too close together for kids plus it's dark.  It's NOT a kid-friendly place.  She wrote about another place - that restaurant over @ Wynnewood Train Station too. Uh, little parking and all I need is for the kids to bolt out of the restaurant onto the train tracks.

I've ignored her writing since then, honestly, seems to me like advertisements cloaked as news that have little to do with the actual experience of taking your kids to a restaurant around here. 

And yes, I've noticed the quality to go down quite a bit since Nathan left.  Frankly, I now hardly ever go there.

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Yup I guess I know too much  ...

It's less the health issues that I am worried , it's how this man is stealing money from the employees ... So from time to time I see this posting with the picture on the Internet ..He must have alot of haters , since he never pays back money to his creditors ..  much more to come !!

POSTING ON CRAIGSLIST :

WARNING FOR ALL APPLYING FOR A JOB AT FELLINIS :

DO NOT WORK THERE !!

THE OWNERS (FRANCO & PINO) WILL TAKE / STEAL MONEY FROM EMPLOYEES EVERY NIGHT !!!

EVERY NIGHT YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY 10$ FOR GIVING FREE WINE TO THE CUSTOMERS ( THE JUG IS $12.99)..THERE ARE AT LEAST 5 to 6 EMPLOYEES AT NIGHT...

YOU WILL NEVER EVER SEE A PAYCHECK, THE GUYS ARE 100%  SCAMMERS

YOU BASICALLY PAY THEM TO WORK THERE...

THE AUTHORITIES KNOW IT , BUT THEY LET THEM DO IT ....
 
CALL THEM  (610) 642 9009

 

 

 

 

 

 

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They obviously have not found a good replacement for Nathan Susanj.  Nathan was amazing, a very quick study; he probably burned out.  Sunnergren wasn't up to speed on the issues and was careless in his reporting.

Thank goodness for the irreplaceable Cheryl Allison.

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Susanj was amazing. He showed up to everything. He stayed all night when he had to. He tweeted live from important meetings.

 

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I frontpaged this.  No clever graphic though (not even Spongebob, I'm afraid), since the topic is a little depressing.  I hope the Patch finds some more reporters, if they do indeed have a shortage, that is.

 

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All too true about Patch. Check out the Bryn Mawr or Narberth patches as well--their stories are copied directly from Ardmore (or the reverse).However, did anyone else notice the effect over at MLT since Patch came on the scene?  They seem to be faster at updating local news . Hurrah for competition. 

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The problem with the sort of 'competition' posed by the Patches is there's no long term certainty. Think what would happen if a Patch was really good and drove a local newspaper out of business, and then the quality of that Patch took a tumble. Then we'd all be for the worse.

And since Patch is backed up by AOL, they can afford to fund some money losers for a while to see what sticks.

Lastly, while Patch seems to be able to coast for a while with really soft news and borderline news, the same is not true of the Main Line Times. They'd never be able to get away with printing no news.

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I have more faith in the free market than others.

If Patch took over newspapers, other online competitors to Patch would crop up.

It would just signify the end to newspapers like the end to the stage coach. The internet and cars are not such bad things.

However, it seems Patch is struggling. Not sure if this is a localized issue or a nationwide one.

Susanj did an excellent job and is obviously a hard worker and highly skilled at what he does. I posted what I am sure that he already new - that AOL is pumping money into an unsustainable business model in order to gain market share, and then will cut the number of reporters by 70% or so once it gains enough market share - if that is possible.

My take is susanj left for a more stable job because his skills were in demand.

From that standpoint, Patch worked for him. He demonstrated his skills to a large, public audience and someone else was willing to give him what he considered a better job because of it.

Yet another example of free market in action.

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Yet another example of free market in action.

True, and I understand that improvements are on the way for the Main Line Times website which at the moment is an almost unnavigable zoo. I'm sure that online competition from Patch demands quick action there.

However, the aspect of AOL funding an unsustainable model at first is worrisome, and is the ugly side of the "free market." Deep pocketed out of town companies ready to make something attractive and affordable at first, but only for a limited time; enough to drive out local competition.

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I posted above that if Patch put newspapers out of business, other online competitors would just pop-up and create jobs.

However, not all - and for that matter, most new business models are not successful.

If Patch fails, but because of its initial competition, makes MLMN and its website better, consumers still win out.

This is an example of free market competition not only giving consumers choice, but the new competition causes the old guard to step up and improve service for consumers.

I also don't see government giving one side a benefit over the other.

All healthy free market competition in my view.

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I understand what you said, but it ain't necessarily so.  No one has proved that any online newspaper is commercially viable at all. If AOL is willing to back local Patches at a loss they're meddling with local competition, not enhancing it.

There are lots and lots of things that need doing around here, and I don't see any free market competitors popping up to take care of them. Moral of the story: sometimes free market competition just serves to wipe out the good tried and true stuff and leave us with ho-hum choices.

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Huffington Post, The Daily Beast, and TalkingPointsMemo.com all seem to be financially successful, strictly online news sources.  Except for local news, they do quite well for national coverage as compared to the traditional national dailies.  There are probably some other examples out there.

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All we used to have was Main Line Times as a newspaper.

Due to competition from the internet, it now offers online news and is looking to revamp its website.

Hey, nobody said numerous local news sources were viable and I just posted most new business ventures fail.

It is the fact that people are willing to take risks and start businesses that they think have a competitive advantage over others - and if they succeed, it only benefits consumers.

I want Patch to succeed - at least in how it was doing with susanj. It was an excellent alternative to MLMN.

I also want MLMN to succeed. Competition is always good for consumers.

I look forward to the next market/technological innovation that offers local news because it will create jobs and keep its competitors on their toes.

It’s a tough economy so I’m not holding my breath on any new ventures opening up short-term in this arena, but it is what the market dictates.

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My daughter's school class took an informal survey- "How many of your families get a a daily newspaper?" Out of 25 kids, she was the only one where a daily was not delivered to the home (We rely totally on on-line news). I was kind of surprised. Do you all get a "real" paper?

Good to hear the MLT on-line is having an overhaul. The site is irritating to navigate. But I do feel their coverage has become more meaty and the content is refreshed with greater frequency than in the pre_patch era.

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Used to get the print Inquirer and New York Times.  Was out of the country for a year and didn't revive the print subscriptions for a couple of reasons:  much too much paper, too much of a distraction; the Inquirer was paying John Yoo to write a column for them and the NYT was paying Bill Kristol to write a column for them, both are gone, thankfully.  The NYT has the revolting Ross Douthat as a regular columnist which is a pity; even so, I have succumbed and signed up for their online subscription and am about to subscribe to the digital Inquirer.  We have a print subscription to the Main Line Times.  I think all of these provide value and ought to be paid something for it.   I also contribute to a number of online news sites and political blogs.

Tom Murray better get the Patch's act together fast.

My home page is the Guardian.  US media reporting on international affairs is just abysmal.

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Ardmore is not in Tom's coverage area....check out Malvern and some of those Patch products - they are Tom

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So who is the overseer for our area?

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Hugh, I honestly do not know - I kind of sent this onto Tom to ask - have heard nothing back yet.   They aren't necesarily showing the freelancers so much love anymore either

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I'm wondering if this has any relavence: http://www.ericdsnider.com/snide/leaving-in-a-huff/

tl;dr AOL bought Huffington Post, and botched that up good.  Then they laid off bloggers, but asked them to keep working for free.  It did not end well.

 

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