Adding 10,400 Square Feet to Ludington Library Yields 10% Fewer Books on Shelf

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http://www.philly.com/philly/news/pennsylvania/20110604_Library_expansion_stirs_hopes_in_Bryn_Mawr.html

The building's two-story, wraparound, glass-enclosed reading "porch" will be the project's centerpiece when the library reopens, now tentatively set to happen in the fall. . . .

Ludington closed in winter 2010, when work began. When it reopens, it will have 30 percent to 40 percent more space for people, library director Margery Hall said, and about 10 percent fewer books. But that doesn't mean the collection is shrinking. . . .

The highlight of the renovation, though, is the 10,400-square-foot reading "porch" with tables, chairs, and vending machines on the Bryn Mawr Avenue side. The Lancaster Avenue side will house the fiction collection, reference materials, magazines, newspapers, and several seating nooks.

Amazing what you can get for a mere $9 million.

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[...] about 10 percent fewer books. But that doesn't mean the collection is shrinking. . . .

I'm thoroughly confused by the above. Puzzled Puzzled Puzzled

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If you read the article, it explains that many many books will be available at the Ardmore  processing center.  You can reserve them on line or you can go to Ardmore and pick them up.  The Ardmore processing center is just an extension of Ludington.   Who knew?

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Worse than I thought. And where are Commissioner Reed and Commissioner Taylor to explain their vote? $24 Million and not only not one more book, not only no evidence that one more person will read a book, not only no evidence that one person will read one more book but, in fact, fewer book. We will await Comm. Manos lucid explanation and the wise and virtuous Comm. Gordon will tell us how this is really "for the common good". Comm. Rogan and Dellheim...well, perhaps they will follow Comm. Lindner's example and remain silent. Let us see what Comm. McElhaney has to say. 

And we still don't know how many actual, real world users there are.

Maybe the Commissioners could resume building to run the USPS.

This is so embarrassingly stupid it is hard to believe. and FYI  The Gateway Fountain is still not bubbling.Of course, these mistakes don't cost the Commissioners a dime.

And Comm. Rogan and Dellheim, flummoxed by complex concept of a check register, wonder why we want to see who is getting rich (er) from bad government.

Thanks, Hugh, for the post.

 

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what crap.  who knew libraries were about space not books?  a few months down the road does anyone know why Reed and Taylor really resigned?  And I heard a rumor about Cleland only sticking around a couple more years if that?  Is this true?  But remember, as long as people support commissioner candidates like Rogan, Bernheim, Manos, and McGuire (or however you spell Bruce light's name) NOTHING will change.....or have a chance of changing.

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Correct, Carla  Personnel is Policy and until these fiscal experts are replaced by people who can balance a check book, the taxpayers are in trouble. Not to mention all of us embarrassed by these dopey decisions. $900k to fix a problem that didn't exist at Ardmore and Lancaster, memorialized by a fountain that doesn't work. You failed to mention the visionary Brian Gordon.

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You failed to mention the visionary Brian Gordon.

Didn't Brian Gordon vote in favor of the online checkbook? To hear you talk about it, sounds like Jenny Brown cast all 8 votes herself.

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Jenny Brown took the initiative and made the motion and has been a steady proponent for Sunshine for years. None of the Democrats supported her until now...as elections approach.

FYI Lexo  if Jenny Brown had been the only vote, the motion would not have passed.

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These issues should be thoroughly-assessed during this campaign-season, in anticipation of approvals pending for other libraries.

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Dr. Bob will be overjoyed, after thoroughly-assessing the facts which are, appropriately, and presented in run-on and hyphenated form: the other library projects are maintenance-only with no expansions.

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LM should be happy the have useable crap.  Radnor's board wasted millions on crap that the public could not use.  bonuses, twp building, park on the pike.

 

In Newtown they have criminal charges against the supervisors chairman who used without arthorization the twp's FedEx acct for $ 21.45.

 

 

 

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Alas, Lexo is incorrect, noting the equivalency of "expansion" and "addition."

I studied this issue on 3/9/2010 and, at that time, an excerpt from my quoted-material is of-interest [and presented in a grammatically-correct format]:

The Bala Cynwyd Library is next because critical-mass has been met in these areas:

        Service & staff work areas inadequate

        No quiet study area for patrons

        No space for tutoring

        Inadequate space for serving Young Adults

        Storage space insufficient & scattered

        Inadequate space for book sales & merchandizing

Thus, Vitetta plans a small 5,777 sq ft addition & a complete reorganization of floor-plans.

Thus, this library is also to be expanded; note that this is shrouded [as in other instances] withn reader-friendly lingo.

Lexo is advised to overlook compulsion to ID [incorrectly] sentences which are NOT run-on in quality; he is also advised to fact-check before posting.

 

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Bala-Cynwyd library is already funded. You're about 3 months too late with that.

The remaining libraries: Penn Wynne, Gladwyne, Belmont Hills, and Ardmore, no additions or expansions, no additional sq footage, etc.

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Belmont Hills:  Add 1,800 square feet.    Penn Wynne:  Add 1,600 square feet.

http://lowermerion.org/Index.aspx?page=871          Pages 18 and 20 of the PowerPoint presentation.

 

I still don't understand why Penn Wynne, which is the most elaborate, expensive, and badly needed project, is last in the queue, not scheduled until 2014, and certainly in danger of not finding the $$ needed.   Commissioner Churchill did not stand up for his ward.

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Hugh,

Couldn't agree more about the need to push PW up in the queue, but I haven't given up hope just yet. The order of projects is dictated by the CIP budget, and the 2012 CIP is being formulated/finalized now. Considering that the saving grace of the library renovation program thus far has been project cost reductions realized from the favorable bid environment in the weak construction market, that the housing/construction sector of the economy remains weak and that PW is the most expensive of the remaining library projects, moving the PW project to the front of the queue is the best way to reduce overall library renovation program costs and thereby increase the likelihood that the BOC will be able to see the entire program through as proposed.

FWIW, the published number for the size of the PW expansion is very misleading because that number is gross, not net. When you consider that several hundred sq. ft. (still waiting for an exact number from Steckel/Vitteta) on the second floor will be closed off from the public as part of the renovation, the net is likely to be less than 1,000 sq. ft. The renovation seeks to translate the 2nd floor space to the first floor, which is a far more intelligent way to bring the library into compliance with the ADA than to install an elevator (for similar or greater cost) to access the substandard space on the second floor. 

 

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dr. bob was referring to a prescient, previous comment. dr. bob was ahead of the curve in predicting what would happen.

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Why EXPAND at all? Particularly, when the EXPANSION does not include more books.

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Wynnewoodie, can you cite any needs-analysis that corroborates supporting this project?

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The PW library is not in compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act. The 2nd floor is completely inaccessible to anyone with a disability. One of the goals of the Library Renovation Program was to bring all of the libraries in the Lower Merion Library System into compliance with the ADA. For the PW library, which BTW is the most crowded library in the LMLS, the most sensible solution to accessibility issues is for all of the public space to be on the ground floor.

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How does this  explain the EXPANSION of Ludington and Bala Cynwyd and the fact that space is added and there are fewer books in the EXPANDED Library?

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It doesn't. That's the point Wynnewoodie has made.

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can we all concur that this $24 million expenditure should not have been implemented?

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There was a lot about the first two projects that I didn't like, but the last four mainly focus on accessibility for people with disabilities, which I think is very important. I'm all for completing all of the remaining projects. I only hope that the exorbitant cost of the first two won't preclude completion of the last four.

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So we have $9 million bigger library building and fewer books, a $135,000 fountain that doesn't work, and $900,000 to fix an intersection that wasn't broken. The Barnes is snatched out of Lower Merion with next to no protest from the Board of Commissioners as a work of art is desecrated.

 

Does any of this give us confidence that the Majority know what they are doing? or that we who elected them know what we are doing?

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So we have $9 million bigger library building and fewer books, a $135,000 fountain that doesn't work, and $900,000 to fix an intersection that wasn't broken.

Let me a guess, a $50,000 paint job for the township building next?


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The Commissioners will commission a $50,000 study first to pretend to ask citizens what they want and then to decide what kind of paint we should use.

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wynnewoodie, a doctrinaire approach--when you have been told that the "completion" process will include expansion [in at least one instance]--does not bespeak knowledge that a cogent cost:benefit analysis has preceded implementation

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I don't know if you've been to a library recently, Bob, but they are not just books, they are about databases with lots of stuff you cannot get from the internet without a credit card.  News databases, social science databases, science databases, programs that teach foreign languages, wifi, etc, etc. etc.  Databases and digital stuff that people need to improve themselves and defend their interests.  I would be surprised if they did need more books and I am not suprised that the need more space for people to bring in their tablets, laptops and smart phones.  But yes, they still have books.  (I am sure if they increased the book count you would be talking about how obsolete books are.)

Investing in the community, I am all for it.

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bebba  I think you have made my point that the trend in reading and information dissemination is not paper books but electronic digital transmission.

I was recently at Ardmore Library and there quite a few books and people quietly reading books. No conversations. This was not a meeting place; it was a place to read books. A most pleasant experience and the ambiance would easily be ruined by EXPANSION. The staff is some of the most pleasant people one could meet. Leave Ardmore Library alone would be my recommendation.

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The renovation plan for the Ardmore Library does not include an expansion. 

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Bubba, you are reframing the issue from the need to analyze the public expenditure of mega-$$$ to a "faith"-based argument.

You are obligated to show that specific needs to enhance availability of any such databases are met by this $24-million project.

A feel-good approach doesn't justify what essemtially may be a glorified community center affording daycare opportunities.

 

 

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I don't know that Bubba is "obliged" to justify his views. Seems to me that there's a basic philosophical issue at hand: Some people think that public spending should be kept to a bare minimum, while others think it is the role of public spending to generally promote and benefit the public amenities. Some people characterize debt spending as irresponsible during hard economic times, while others think it is wise to invest in public infrastructure for the future.

 

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Whatever philosophical you have, it seems to me that $135 000 for a fountain that doesn't work or $900,000 to "fix" Ardmore Lancaster intersection that wasn't broken is the focus for many. The Commissioners have grandiose visions and seem incompetent at execution.

 

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You are again incorrect, Lexo, just as you were when you falsely asserted that the next-in-line "renovation" was not actually constituting an EXPANSION.

All expenditures of $$$ collected from The Forgotten Taxpayer must be scrutinized, if for no other reason than to confirm it will accomplish what is pledged.

Creating an "all or none" model serves only the purposes of the do-gooder who has not cogently thought-through what he/she truly envisions.

 

 

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Not sure why I need to answer to you, but I don't by any means hold an "all or none" model.  I am not receiving any "do-gooder" points for being in favor or against any of the various expenditures. If you think you know what I am in favor of and what I'm against you are probably wrong.

If you want to put ADA compliance modifications under the heading of "expansion," then fine. I kind of disagree with that a lot, but fine. It is what it is.

I'm all for scrutiny of expenditures. You're right, they should accomplish what they pledge to accomplish. No argument.

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  Harry Potter goes digital. Lower Merion conserves and preserves the past. If we don't do it, who will?

 

Fortunately, here in Lower Merion, where we conserve and preserve the past, we resist the shallow allure of commercially available and inexpensive technologies, digital delivery of information, ideas and books for a more genteel, quietly contemplative, communal  reading experience so valued by our community. Bravo, Lower Merion.

For reader comfort,  I note that new, expanded Ludington is more spacious with more floor space and fewer books to clutter and obstruct line of sight or free movement.  

One quibble, the New Ludington does not  have a fountain welcoming users.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304569504576403291417417796.html?mod=djemalertNEWS

Says a profit driven, wildly successful and very popular  JK Rowling:

"I'll be sharing additional information that I've been hoarding for years about the world of Harry Potter," Ms. Rowling said in a Thursday press conference in London. "I can be creative in a medium that didn't exist back in 1990 when I started writing the books."

Now, Pottermore is Ms. Rowling's next step toward keeping the franchise alive and vital beyond the book series. Users can travel through the first book in the series—"Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone"—and Ms. Rowling will then gradually reveal the online ecosystem tied to the subsequent six books over the course of a few years. Digital editions for all seven books, however, will be available in October.

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Lexo, your pablum response yields the obvious question:  "Following scrutiny, do you support THIS expenditure for the Luddington Library?" 

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[the silence is again deafening]

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"The economics of the book business are changing so rapidly the industry barely looks like it did just six months ago."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904875404576532351102200460.html?mod=djemITP_h

But not here in Lower Merion where the EXPANDED (with fewer books) $9 Ludington bricks and mortar, paper book horse and buggy "Library" building is nears completion. We defy crass economics in favor of the common good paid for by The Forgotten Taxpayer, whether he or she likes it or not.

And who of us is not impressed by the imaginative and original  building design, worth the $* cost and a few 100 year old trees, is it not?

And how much better all our lives are because of this EXPANSION. All it lacks is a bubbling fountain.

Are we not all thankful for the wise and visionary leadership of our Lower Merion Majority Commissioners?

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I'm interested in a philosophical question: Can virtual (Kindle) books be loaned out? If a public library owns one virtual copy of a book, how many virtual copies of that book may it lend out at one time? None? One? Or an infinite number?

Why do Kindle copies of books cost about the same as physical copies, when they have no manufacturing cost, no transportation or warehousing costs, and no inventory management or distribution costs borne by the publisher?

When you are done with your Kindle copy of a book, are you free to sell it or give it away?

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your query is illustrative of why Guzzardi's observation that these rehab millions [encasing an older building within steel/glass] were mis-spent 

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It seems that the Ludington will be delayed six months and there are 100s of 1000s of cost overruns. oh well... it's for the General Welfare

 

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November 16, 1700: Charleston, SC, established the first library in the English colonies in 1698 and later passed an act allowing inhabitants to borrow the books.

For those of you who don't use the bricks and mortar paper book library, here is a review about the new Amazon $ 99 Kindle: E-Reading Without Fire: How a Basic Kindle Fares

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204190504577040112679859948.html

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I grew up in Ardmore during the 70's and Ludington was always the library of choice. Even though i now live in Haverford township i would still go to Ludington to relax and read. I recently visited the "new" ludington and i am very disappointed. The great secluded spots are gone. The fiction area is cramped and it is difficult to see what is on the lower shelfs. the graphic novels are sequestered in the teen area and i feel creepy entering. Also there are definetly less books than before and i think it is alot more than 10%. Whoever laid this out really blew it.

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I went over to the new Ludington on opening day. There were more computers even if there were fewer books. There is a lot more space to heat and cool.

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Glad to hear there are more computers. They always stated there would be fewer computer work stations, which made no sense to me.

I have not bothered to go in, but in driving by numerous times that vaulted ceiling front area with massive open space certainly does not look energy efficient.

It also annoys me a study was never done on how many visitors come over from Haverford and Radnor townships right next door.

I wonder how many people there are from other townships that LM taxpayers are paying to use their library for free?

If this library becomes some sort of regional magnet and requires more staff, more computers, more resources, it will only be LM taxpayers paying for those outside the township to get free use of our tax dollars that will rise well over and above the extraordinary cost to "renovate" (i.e. build a whole new, massive library) in the first place.

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Proving once again, Lower Merion Democrats cannot be trusted with money.

 

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