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The Lone Star Jobs Surge WSJ Gov. Rick Perry Job Creator

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304259304576375480710070472.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_AboveLEFTTop

Kevin Williamson NRO Rick Perry’s Tenth Commandment - Constitutional Federalist - Traditional American Values

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/265309/rick-perry-s-tenth-commandment-kevin-d-williamson?page=3

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I dunno, Perry has been gov of TX for over 10 years, and unemployment there is about 8%, which is pretty far down on the list.  A bunch of states are doing a lot better. And VT has single payer health care now! If I had to choose I'd go to VT over TX any day.

http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

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Of course you would vote for "Free Money"  Single Payer Government Health Care regime, you are a Democrat    Smiling

Some of us want something better and are willing to work for it. Some are Tax Makers and some are Tax Takers

 

                                   Free Money = Dependency

 

The Texas Model 263,000 new jobs from June 2009 to April 2011, 37% of all new jobs

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304259304576375480710070472.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_AboveLEFTTop

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Health care costs is money we pay anyway as a society, so we might as well be organized about it rather than brainless about it. The current health care system rewards unnecessary tests and procedures, which is free money for doctors and hospitals and health care bureaucracy.

I guess we'll be able to see for ourselves in a few years, how Vermont fares.

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Here is the real story on being governor of Texas: it is one of the weakest governorships in the US.  He has no authority to even propose a budget; that resides with the Lt. Governor, who may (or may not) be from the same party.   Under Bush the Lt. Gov was a Dem.

He does not appoint a cabinet.  Further, the legislature in Texas only meets for 3 months EVERY OTHER YEAR.  The governor has limited experience dealing with the legislature and often relies on the Lt. Gov.  All of this was crafted during the Reconstruction period following the Civil War.

From a course curriculum of Odessa College:  . 

"Comparing the Texas governor to the other 49 on four indexes of power--tenure of office, appointive powers, budgetary powers, and veto powers, find that [the] Texas governor is comparatively weak in formal powers.  Only in the areas of tenure and veto authority does the Texas governor rank strong"

Don't let the size of Texas fool you into thinking the governor has an intellect to match.

Having lived in Dallas before LM, Rick Perry is little more than a pretty face.

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Rick Perry was Lt. Gov of Texas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Perry Rick Perry had been elected to Texas Legislature as a Democrat in 1984 where he seems to have been effective as common sense fiscal conservative even if he was a Democrat.

In 1989, after drinking some fracking chemicals, he became a Republican ( just kidding about fracking chemicals, he took some stupid pills).

In 1990 he became Agriculture and served until Jan 19, 1999 when he took oath of office and served until Dec. 21, 2001 when GW Bush resigned. See Wikipedia for more.

Unfortunately, Audrey, like so many Liberals, you omit material facts to make a case. It is the liberal meme that Rick Perry is a lightweight. Of course, to Liberals, all Republicans are stupid and unenlightened unlike the unviersity professor now President and we see where that has gotten us.

Rick Perry does not appear to be an intellectual but he does appear to have principles and common sense. You are right that Texas Gov. is different than other Governors, like the Governor of Alaska, for example. On the other hand, Gov. Perry does have a long history of legislative and executive experience that is not to be discounted. He is politically fearless having challenged the Bush Dynastic Establishment and prevailed. No small accomplishment.

Sorry, Audrey, it is good to tell the truth, it is better to tell the whole truth. Much of what you say it is accurate, out of context it turns out not to be true.

 

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So... Perry is a 10 year governor of Texas, right?  Who is responsible for Texas having an 8% unemployment rate, and who is responsible for Vermont having at 5.3% unemployment rate?  What am I missing (or what am I omitting?)

Your own omission of Texas's 8% unemployment rate is for the purpose of making ...what case, exactly?

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The reason you gave for choosing Vermont over Texas was "free" healthcare not to find a job.

Comparing the economies of Vermont and Texas would take some time and Vermont would not come off well. It is a very beautiful state and the main, and only, interstate prohibits billboards which makes even a drive on highway a breathtaking experience and I understand the skiing is good. No skiing in Texas.

Seriously, the focus is on JOB GROWTH, workforce participation, that is, the number of people in the population who are working as a percentage of those who could work if they wanted to,  and nature of jobs, low skilled v. highly skilled and high paying. Texas is an exporting economy and Vermont is importing economy. More people are moving to Texas than to Vermont because the job statistic is misleading. There is opportunity for growth in Texas and not in Vermont.

I have been to both Texas and Vermont and Texas is far more vibrant and exciting and productive.

I would choose to move to Texas and I am pleased that you are free to choose to go to Vermont. Happily, in America, we have the opportunity to make these choices.

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It is the liberal meme that Rick Perry is a lightweight. Of course, to Liberals, all Republicans are stupid and unenlightened unlike the unviersity professor now President and we see where that has gotten us.

Why do you persist in defining what liberals do and think? So far the only person who's brought up the above is you. 

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When Guzzardi omits a reference, it is only because there are so many; pick-up any issue of the MSM's NYTimes/WPost.

Note how they failed to find any dirt in Sarah's e-mails, despite a "crowd-search" mega-effort.

Anyway, what do YOU think of Perry?

 

 

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What do I think of Perry? I question why a guy who's been governor for 10 years doesn't get blamed for 8% unemployment in his state, but instead is getting praised for it. But no one seems to want to answerthat.  That's pretty much all I think of Rick Perry.

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Perhaps you will soon need to think a bit more thoroughly about him, after you have acquired a correct database.

You can start with knowing that the unepmployment rate in Texas is 7.7%.

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=usunemployment&met_y=unemployment_rate&idim=state:ST480000&dl=en&hl=en&q=texas+unemployment+rate

 

 

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That's it? We were looking for something broader and deeper. This is as shallow as Audrey Romasco's comment.

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Why? Its the subject of your blog that he creates a lot of jobs in Texas, but you don't offer how he did it. Audrey talked about the position of Texas's governor being a weak position, and I asked how a person in such a weak position - a position which can't even propose a state budget - can have an effect on the employment in his state; and you countered with "All liberals thing all Republicans are stupid."

Deep?

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Audrey may be wrong about the level of influence that the Governor has. Gov. Perry supports the policies that led to job growth which was done by the private productive sector, not the government. Gov. Perry's commitment to Federalism is strong and resonates with those who see how the Federal government under Bush Obama has expanded spending, borrowing and taxing. It was Pres. Bush  who signed No Child Left Behind which federalized and concentrated education policy in Washington DC and enacted Prescription D, a precursor to Obama's take over of health care system. Federalism and Limited Government are key components of Gov Perry's job creating policies. Sometimes the government that does the least does the most for productive citizenry.

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Sometimes the government that does the least does the most for productive citizenry.

That would explain why Perry is not even mentioned in the first article you posted about job growth in Texas.

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I am pleased. I have communicated. Free Markets have produced more goods and provided more services than any economic system in history. Free markets, the spontaneous order that emerges from voluntary and cooperative human interaction for mutual benefit has raised standard of living in no matched by collectivist centralized system.

And Rick Perry is from an energy state. We need a president who understands energy. New oil supplies are being developed in Texas using hydraulic fracturing even as Democrats shut down drilling in ANWAR and in Gulf and elsewhere. Texas, and maybe Penna. if Liberal Democrats don't ruin it, can bring America to energy independence and more affordable energy.

Leadership counts.

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the level of "shallowness" rivals that of a wading-pool; let's see what he says tonight in NYC....

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Your link is helpful. I'd encourage anyone to click on it and follow the unemployment history of Texas since Perry took office in 2000, when unemployment was as 4%.

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That I think is part of Gov. Perry's agenda. That, in many ways, Texas can't avoid the negative impact of Federal intervention in the economy. All the States are under the same regime from DC and yet Texas creates jobs in disproportionate numbers. There has to be a reason. and the reason is policy favoring a  Free Market or as much of one as we can have in our quasi socialist system.

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Audrey and Lexo are enlightening, both for what they write and for what they omit; Guzzardi, I'd say Perry has passed-muster!

 

[this is a preliminary decision, of course, pending submission of talking-points from MSNBC, et al.]

 

Guzzardi should also note that he defeated KBH in a bitter-primary, enhancing "tea party' cred!

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Audrey and Lexo are enlightening, both for what they write and for what they omit;

Puzzled

Guzzardi, I'd say Perry has passed-muster!

Puzzled Puzzled

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   Texas created 37% of all new jobs from June 2009 to April 2011

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304259304576375480710070472.html?mod=djemEditorialPage_h

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How is a governor responsible for 7.7% unemployment and running up a California sized $27 billion budget deficit "the guy"....?I'm not even going to approach his positions on LGBT issues, as his stance and the organizations he associates himself with are nothing short of disgusting. And my personal favorite, Perry feels that the 17th amendment should be repealed, and that WE THE PEOPLE should not elect our senators, state legislatures should! Yikes.

And sorry, but WSJ or National Review Opinion pieces are *not* valid resources, I try not to stick my head into those echo chambers... You wouldn't be accepting of someone quoting Rachel Maddow, now would you?

 

 

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Jethro, specific replies to your attack on Perry are reflexly-obvious.

First, the movement of people/businesses/jobs from California to Texas has so upset Sacrimento that a delegation from the legislature was dispatched to Austin to discern what had happened over the years; as Guzzardi documented, Texas leads the nation in job-creation.

Second, whatever presumed deficit that you cite to be extant in Texas will, assuredly, be confronted by Perry prior to the end of its 3-month, biennial session; you cannot equate whatever it is to the MASSIVE levels in California. 

Third, his social-issue viewpoint recognizes the sanctity [over the millennia] of "marriage"; I don't know the details thereof but, even if he doesn't recognize "civil union," this is insufficient justification to ignore him.

Fourth, smearing him by association [unnamed organizations which are "disgusting"] is an indefensible posture to adopt; be specific or vow not to engage in such gutter-politis.

Fifth, his focus on Federalism [states' rights] is shared by the multitudes who claim DC is out-of-touch; studying the history of the Wilsonian model [empowering the POTUS], as Glenn Beck has been accomplishing exhaustively, illustrates why the Founders/Framers had envisioned a Senate that would constantly be reminded of the need to maintain limited government [lest he/she be replaced].

Sixth, the validity of any given resource is contingent upon its credibility/references; I'd trust Rachel if she ever were to emerge from her hate-filled rhetoric and cite information [as do WSJ/NRO] and then derive opinions therefrom.

Seventh, I will rest...awaaiting a cogent reply....

 

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First - Great! But what about that 7.7 unemployment rate?

Second - He has yet to address it, and the threat is real. So this is a "wait and see".

Third - For some people, denying human beings basic rights because they are different is sufficient justification to ignore him. No doubt, future generations will look back at this period of time in shame.

Fourth - Specifics, in short: He aligned himself with the "American Family Association", which recently referred to gays as "Nazis" performing "genocide" against US troops with the repeal of DADT. http://tinyurl.com/3bt8h5l

Fifth - Any mention of Glenn Beck doesn't really deserve a reply! But I find it difficult for anyone to believe that it is *better* to have the person representing *you* in the US senate to be elected by *another politician*! Again, I say, Yikes! But who am I to question what the Tea Party tells me to think! OBEY!

Sixth - Agreed. As to Rachel, she does often cite information. I generally don't like her very much, She can be the Michelle Malkin/Ann Coulter of the left.

Seventh - There ya go!

 

 

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1-Texas is, alas, not immune from BHO's policies.

2-Concur, for "res ipso loquitur."

3-Is "LGBT-marriage" a basic-human-right ensconced in the Constitution and/or the Judeo-Christian tradition?

4-I was impressed when following your hyperlink, but the best I could find [linking Perry to the AFA] was this exploration of the controversy [which includes Hagee, who is a very strong supporter of Israel's-survival and America's-exceptionalism]: 

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/groups/american-family-association

I found no smoking-gun therein; if this entity wants to enhance religiosity privately, it should be afforded every free-specch opportunity to do so!

5-Don't shoot the messenger; Glenn Beck documents his assertions assiduously.  The reason for the original formulation was to maintain Federalism, thereby weakening DC [which most people constantly complain is "too big"]; The People's House was unaffected in the process, an endpoint that is certainly elevated by participants in the Tea Party Movement.

6-Rachel deftly selects slanded/incomplete information to reinforce the biases of her listenership; indeed, of all of the MSN-Lefties, she is the slickest.  Just watch her in a disinterested mood when you know the database from which she is selecting building-blocks for her pungent narratives; you will note 100%-slant, absent equivocation or reasonable uncertainty.  Compare/contrast this approach to that which the WSJ/NRO scrupulously adhere [egged-on, if necessary, by reader-comments].

7-The Bob is poised to continue this dialogue....

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3 - All humans deserve the same rights and opportunities regardless of their naturally born orientation.

4 - Let me Google that for you *is* great! Sorry, The smoking gun is there, you simply choose not to see it.

5 - Yikes.

6 - Exactly. Just as Fox News does. They are all the same.

7 - I respectfully decline. Everything you have stated thus far falls directly in line with what the Tea Party / Fox News tells you to think, so I can just anticipate your answers on my own. No need for you to regurgitate them. Thanks!

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It looks to me, referring to Dr Bob's helpful chart, that at the moment Obama took office in January 2009, unemployment in Texas was 6.8%.  So it would appear, as Dr Bob will concede in his distinctive style, that "BHO's policies" took Texas's unemployment rate from 6.8% to 7.7% (+0.9%). Gov Perry took Texas unemployment from December 2009's 3.7% to Jan '09's 6.8% (+3.1%)

So let's review:

Texas unemployment in Dec 2000 is 3.7%.

Perry more than doubles the unemployment rate.

Bob touts perry as a "job creator" and refers to an article that doesn't even mention Perry.

A number of us ask, quizzically, what does Gov Perry do to create jobs in Texas? Answer is mostly deafening silence.

 

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I've been trying for some minutes to get a post, posted.  But, my images aren't somehow working.   so, I'm posting something from another website which says essentially the same thing.

A recent study claiming “immigrants (legal and illegal) have been the primary beneficiaries of [Texas’ job] growth since 2007” was inaccurate because it relied on flawed methodology.

The main contention in the study by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) was, “Of jobs created in Texas since 2007, 81 percent were taken by newly arrived immigrant workers (legal and illegal).” It goes on to assert, backing up its numbers with data from government sources, that, “…between the second quarter of 2007, right before the recession began, and the second quarter of 2011, total employment in Texas increased by 279,000. Of this, 225,000 jobs went to immigrants (legal and illegal) who arrived in the United States in 2007 or later.”

CIS also claimed that half of the newly-arrived immigrants were illegally in America. While a case can be made that these numbers are off using Department of Homeland Security data showing that the amount of illegal immigrants getting new jobs in Texas (60,000) was less than half number claimed in the CIS report (153,880), the greater issue was the flawed methodology that led to the report’s most widely-reported claim.

http://www.texaspolicy.com/pdf/2011-10-PB45-TexasModel-WhoReallyGetsTexasJobs-CFP-ChuckDeVore.pdf

 

IOW, the number of "unemployed"[ is skewed because the "unemployed" are leaving other states and coming to Texas (because of the jobs available) , which temporarily increases the number of unemployed in Texas while decreasing the number of "unemployed" in the states they are leaving.  Poor comparisons, based upon looking at just percentages, not the whole picture.

Skewed results happen when only one factor is looked at.   A typical error made by those unfamiliar with stats. Knights who say... NI!

The same thing is also found on this site:

http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590#respond

The reason is that people are flocking to Texas in massive numbers. Starting at the beginning of the recession (December 2007), let's look at how this set of states have grown in their labor force./snip/

(insert charts here that I could not get posted.)

As you can see, Texas isn't just the fastest growing... it's growing over twice as fast as the second fastest state and three times as fast as the third. Given that Texas is (to borrow a technical term) f***ing huge, this growth is incredible.

People are flocking to Texas in massive numbers. This is speculative, but it *seems* that people are moving to Texas looking for jobs rather than moving to Texas for a job they already have lined up. This would explain why Texas is adding jobs faster than any other state but still has a relatively high unemployment rate.

 

Not to mention that the Center for Immigration Studies is part of a racist, white supremacy group:

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publ...-of-intolerance
http://americasvoiceonline.org/page/content/wolves/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tanton
http://mightyminnow.wordpress.com/2009/02/...st-hate-groups/

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The 80% number is pie in the sky, but reports I have read to put it at about 40% of new job creation in Texas goes to illegal immigrants and a far higher majority of new jobs in Texas are low wage jobs, as compared to other states.

Also, since the Great Recession started, over 100,000 new Texas jobs are government jobs. Rick Perry has increased the size and scope of government in Texas while increasing government jobs, which I personally consider to be a drain on the economy beyond the most essential government jobs (which also cost tax dollars, but at least provide value). 15.4% of the of the workforce in Texas is employed by the government, which is well above the national average. Since 2007, private-sector employment in Texas declined by 0.6 percent while public-sector jobs increased by 6.4 percent, according to the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The relatively high unemployment rate in Texas is explained by the lack of new private sector jobs (and especially private sector jobs that pay above minimum wage). Just creating government jobs does not cut it, though it can distort the numbers if you don't break them down.

Fact is all states have been hit. Texas has not been hit the worse, but the growth numbers are deceptive. Negative growth in private sector jobs since 2007.

 

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Texas has the best job creation record in the country. Compare and contrast all the other candidates including the president.

It is creating jobs for middle class and lower middle income wage earner. What's wrong with that? The best job training is a job.

You are right that growing government is not good. There are no saints in Washington and Rick Perry won't be the first.

Illegal is illegal and illegal job creation is not good but it is better than illegal welfare. Ron Paul is, particularly, compelling when he says illegal immigration would decline if welfare were reduced. He is right about that.

Rick Perry governs and, actual, real world governing requires compromises to get things done. Oddly, only Sarah Palin and Rick Perry have real world governing experience and the intelligentsia thinks they are dumb. The genius intellectuals give us unrealistic utopian dreams; real executives get things done and they don't always make the right decisions.

 

 

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the numbers are these (and can be found by selecting government employment from the data wizard at this link http://www.bls.gov/sae/data.htm):

Counting from the beginning of the recession (December 2007) the Texas public sector has grown 3.8%, or a little under 70,000 employees. This is faster than normal employment, but it's not off the charts.

 

Given that the Texas economy has grown so much and private sector jobs have grown so much, that doesn't strike me as an unsustainable growth in the public sector.

But, just in case you're really worried about it, you can lay your fears to rest because in the last year the Texas public sector has shrunk by 26,000 jobs. In the last 12 months, Texas lost 31,300 federal employees, trimmed 3,800 state jobs, and increased local government jobs by 8,400 jobs.

(To be fair, this was partially driven by the role Texas employees played in the census, which inflated federal job numbers this time last year. Since the census numbers stabilized, federal employment has been at about break-even.) Knights who say... NI!

http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590#respond

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Thanks avafromTexas. this is most valuable information. No other candidate can make any claim to job creation.

The Texas Model works.

 

 

 

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And whatever the exact job creation number is, remember that approx. 40% went to illegal immigrants.

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Links?

You're not using the Center for Immigration Studies are you? ......is a well known biased, partisan and at times straight-out racist and bigoted organization.  If you look at the "reports" this statement is based upon, I think you will find it's genesis with CIS.....hate group which is connected to white supremacists and white nationalists.  Few people bother to look up where they get their numbers.  They are in such a hurry to post garbage.  That includes any well-known author, newspaper, etc.  Poor journalism eager to smear.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/the-nativist-lobby-three-faces-of-intolerance
http://americasvoiceonline.org/page/content/wolves/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tanton
http://mightyminnow.wordpress.com/2009/02/...st-hate-groups/

I can say the moon is made of blue cheese.  Doesn't make it so.

 

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Most New Jobs Pay Good Wages: “…these jobs are not low-paying jobs. The average weekly wage in the education and health services sector is $790; in the professional and business services sector it is $1,117; and in the mining sector, the average weekly wage is $2,271. Together these three sectors account for 68 percent of the jobs that have been created in Texas in the past two years.” Here is a link to Mr. Fisher’s full speech.

Mr. Fisher quotes weekly wages for the 68% of jobs created. Annualizing $790/week is $41,080, $1,117/wk is $58,084, and $2,271/wk is $118,092 when annualized. Hardly “low wages.”

You can check out the actual data for yourself at Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), (the source of the statistics quoted by Mr. Fisher). Be aware that dataset is massive, but it downloads your selected groups into Excel files that can be “sliced and diced” in many different ways.

If Texas has only been creating only low wage jobs (the only kind that an illegal can get ), please explain how the statewide median income is still $48,259? A “building & grounds maintenance” person in the Dallas area earns a median annual income of $20,530 and a “food prep and serving” employee earns a median income of only $17,900, not counting tips (both figures from BLS). The massive number of low paying jobs must really be pulling down the Texas median income. Imagine what the $48,259 would be if not for the thousands of “poorly paid individuals.”

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I’ll give you that Texas has had better job growth than most all states.

By your own numbers, is 32% the number of new jobs that went to people who have no legal right to work in the U.S. correct? Just trying to figure out what that number is. What is an acceptable percentage of illegal immigrants to be unlawfully employed by a state like Texas, which admittedly has the largest border with Mexico?

Texas also has a very friendly tax rates and other programs that attract out of state work, which just cannibalizes other states and is thus break-even for the country. As president, Perry can’t cannibalize other countries for jobs or that further takes away from jobs for Americans. Do you have a breakdown of new jobs created in Texas from scratch as opposed to being imported from other states and Mexico (I admit that with so many links I have not read them all)?

You have made some good points, so my effort hear is not to rip Perry, but rather get to the numbers behind the numbers.

How do you respond to this Houston Chronicle article titled “Ten reasons why the Texas economy is growing that have nothing to do with Rick Perry?”

The article lists the following reasons:

Rising oil prices, government growth, military spending, no housing bubble, a young consumer-oriented population, high-tech industries, fracking, Texas exports, drug trafficking

Just what are the specific policies that Perry has implemented that have created jobs from within the state, and are they transferrable on a national level?

If so, I will certainly give Perry credit where credit is due.

Perry does seem to be “low tax, low regulation” from the Chronicle article, but then, outside of Romney, which GOP candidate is not?

Outside of Romney, those who have a shot outside of Perry are Cain and Paul. I actually believe Cain is for bigger government, and the numbers from his 9-9-9 plan bear that out (and harm the poor and middle class while helping the rich) and I expect Cain to drop as the flavor of the month.

You can’t argue Paul is not for “low tax, low regulation” as he has a constant record of voting for the least taxes and the least regulation in 30 years in Congress and just proposed a $1 trillion budget cut and balanced budget in three years.

I see Romney as the front-runner, but his record is horrific in my view for limited government, Cain has a bad record just by having been a Federal Reserve Board governor and in my view his 9-9-9 plan is atrocious.

Perry could come back and rise in the polls as Cain fades, or Ron Paul might become the new flavor of the month just as we head into Iowa and New Hampshire.

Right now Cain, Romney and Paul are in double digits in Iowa (and in that order). Perry is at 6%. Romney will not lose New Hampshire. Perry has a shot at South Carolina. Nevada is up for grabs, and then the wait for Super Tuesday.

Either Romney coasts, or Cain will somehow maintain his new found celebrity, though I see him dropping after being vetted and hammered in the last debate.

So, will it be all Romney, or can Perry rebound (which no other GOP shooting star who has dropped has done), or will Paul get a look by voters with what would be excellent timing right before the voting starts?

I’m not a big fan of Perry for a variety of reasons, but just as the GOP has an anyone but Obama view, I do not support Romney as he is not different from Obama, but I also can’t support Bachmann, Gingrich or Santorum.

Last election I refused to vote for McCain or Obama. This election, if it is not Romney, Bachmann, Gingrich or Santorum I just may be able to cast a vote for the GOP candidate, but Cain’s proposed policies really concern me.

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 What the figures show is that Perry has  been able to take all the variables and create the programs that has helped Texas.  I'm sure he can think outside the box as well for the nation.

To answer your question what Perry had done in Texas that can be transferred to the nation? Surely, you don't have to have this drawn into a picture to understand how these policies can be translated to the national level.

Build a business-friendly tax law, continue with the tort reform he's instituted here in Texas to decrease frivulous law suits (which has attracted 60 - 70,000 docs here), decreased regulations which has allowed businesses to thrive. Thanks to disciplined, principled policies of limited growth in spending, low taxes and a reasonable regulatory climate, Texas has been the leading job creator in this nation.  Creating jobs aren't just resting upon gaining jobs from other states.  New business can grow which create jobs.  This isn't news to you, is it?

On taxes alone, Perry has managed to keep taxes low during his 10-year tenure as governor. Countless opportunities to raise taxes presented themselves during Perry’s ten years as governor, yet he resisted the temptation. Texas was ranked 49th among the states in per-capita taxes, at $1,434 a year in 2005, according to a 2009 Census Bureau report and a Texas Public Policy Foundation analysis  (Feb., 2011) shows Texas with a 7.9% combined state/local tax burden, ranking it 45th among the states – for comparison, New York’s burden is 12.1%.

After 10 years in office, with ample opportunities to raise taxes, Perry has maintained an enviable record as a low-tax governor. 

Currently, Texas imposes no tax on personal income or capital gains. Perry remains opposed to a Texas state income tax and recently vetoed a proposed Internet state sales tax. Perry supports a balanced U.S. budget and a balanced budget amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

In his first veto of the year, governor Perry vetoed the Internet sales tax bill (HB 2403). That’s just one more reason for Texas’ low cost of living. Many other states have already enacted new laws to require all Internet sellers to collect a state’s sales tax (regardless of nexus) and others are feverishly getting on the bandwagon – drawn like a moth to a flame – to grab and spend this new source of previously out-of-reach revenue.

Regarding both the Houston Chronicle and the Texas Tribune are liberal newspapers in Texas.  Of course, they won't mention the positives such as I have above. As I've  said before on other forums, there are liberals in Texas that don't like Perry.  Including the Bush family.

 

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Good points. Same reason South Carolina and other southern states attract businesses from elsewhere in the country.

I dare say Texas has had many of those business friendly policies in place since before Perry, but as you indicated, he didn't screw it up.

However, since you are form Texas, can you please explain to exactly how much power the governor of your state has to implement policies?

I have read the governor in Texas has very little actual power, but perhaps that's more liberal media propaganda.

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Man!  You are determined to steal any thunder Perry might have, aren't you?

Re-read my post.  I think it was quite evident that the remarks I made happnened during the 10 years Perry has been Governor.  Here's a link that might go even further to answer your question: http://myhighplains.com/fulltext?nxd_id=210587

What's the dif if he originates the bill/law or not.  He signs on it, or can veto it. Sheesh!

But, since you asked: Texas limits the governor’s power primarily in two areas, appointive and budgetary. Not so with legislative power.  You are not that unusual in critics  who try to diminish Perry’s achievements by denigrating his part in Texas’ successes, as if his participation as governor was inconsequential.

Won't address apponitive power as it's not germane to this debate.  However, regarding budgetary powers, unlike most other state governors, the Texas governor has very restricted budgetary powers.  In Texas, it is the Legislative Budget Board, dominated by the speaker and lieutenant governor that presents a budget to the legislature for approval. A Texas governor’s most significant budgetary power is the line-item veto power over the state budget bill. Because the legislature has often adjourned within days of the budget bill reaching the governor’s desk, they often have no opportunity to override the governor’s line-item veto.

In terms of legislative power, the Texas governor’s veto power is very strong because gubernatorial vetoes or item vetoes are rarely overridden because the legislature has already adjourned by the time that the governor exercises the veto. In Rick Perry’s case, he has vetoed 273 bills since his first term in 2001. He’s not timid about his veto power. The governor also has the power to call additional special sessions of the legislature and is not limited to the number of special sessions he/she calls.

 

Something else of interest regarding changes in which President Perry would be instrumental.

In the end, Perry’s Medicaid record might be less relevant to what the state’s program looks like today and more pertinent to what he wants to do in Washington. A President Perry could approve all those flexibilities that he’s been unable to gain as governor.

“I see the Perry presidency as one with a theme of returning power to the states,” says Arlene Wohlgemuth, who directs health policy for the conservative Texas Public Policy Foundation. “I would expect President Perry to give states that freedom, to continue to show that they can deliver better care for less money.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/perrycare-101-rick-perrys-medicaid-record/2011/08/02/gIQAGafQHJ_blog.html

 

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well said avafromtexas avagreen lubbock... you are real resource. politeia has an exaggerated idea of this poltical insights.

This is a most excellent rebuttal and a gold mine of linked sources.

politeia's Ron Paul can do no wrong.

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Ron Paul is not perfect, and neither is Perry.

Odds are neither will win, but it will be interesting to see who garners more votes and stays in longest.

I'm happy to see the views from someone in Texas. Some good points.

 

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No, I don't think Paul will win.  I don't think he even wants to............I think he wants to create discourse and lay out plans for others to consider.  His age interfers with any election possibilites.

 

But......that being said,  (HERE'S A THOUGHT) since  Paul probs won't win (and most likely doesn't plan on winning), why not throw your vote to Perry, who MIGHT win.??

 

In fact, why don't RP'ers throw their weight behind Perry?  He's the most conservative candidate that has a prayer.....

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At any rate, whatever constraints  that will be on President Perry regarding legislation would be the same regardless of who is President, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make about Perry and legislation.

Unless you are talking about his belief system which will guide him in his choices, of which I think I've proven an ample source of what he believes and demonstrated by the laws he's signed or vetoed.

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Just checked the polls.  Perry is running third in most polls........all but one that I can see.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

 

Cain is a fluke with all his influence coming from the 999 plan, which has already hit the skids.

Once his polls begin to sink, I think the numbers will go back to Perry, from where Cain pulled his numbers. (all in line with the plan to take Perry down.  I think the Yahoos who tried to manipulate the numbers .....in their haste to bring him down did not do research.........were unaware of the quality of his programs and the insistence of his supporter to aright all the lies being put out.  OORRAAAH!).

 

I wish them discomfort in their nether parts.

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The media needs drama. In fact, the pundits are superficial.

The contest Tea Party Tax Paying Main Street Outsiders v. Business as Usual WallStreet-Washington- Unions- Corporatists and Establishment Insiders getting rich from government.

Rick Perry is both an experienced and most definitely not Establishment, not Wall Street, Not Union, Corporatist may be a small issue but manageable.

Rick Perry is the Tea Party guy and Mitt Romney is Establishment guy; if Tea Party and Rick Perry can't convince voters, then US goes Greek and i doubt we recover. The Leftists will be so entrenched that Entitlements suck up the private sector.

OWS is a union financed media hyped passing fad for pampered college kids to play at protesting.

 

Tea Party is real deal; Rick Perry is real deal.

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I have met Mark Krikorian and Stephen Steinlight  do not consider them racists or white supremacists. The Bob reads everything even those we disagree with.They have valid, if sometimes tendentious, relentless arguments against immigration, legal and illegal. Their view is not mine. I am the grandchild of immigrants and think America has kept its promises to me.

Nevertheless, avafromTexas, avagreen, you are correct and linking to Texas Federal Reserve Richard Fisher's comments is compelling and, I think, dispositive of the jobs issue. Mr. Fisher links to government statistics make the case.

The hardcore anti-illegal immigrationists are not happy with Gov. Perry but I find his policies informed, reasonable and supported by voters of Texas who live with this issue daily.

thanks again. good to connect with you.

as you know dr. bob and I post at RedState, both of us have read Fed Up and been most impressed, both of us are Zionists and Rick Perry can be trusted on foreign policy and Israel, dr. bob and I were at Glenn Beck's 28 August event. My daughter lives in Texas, north of Plano and McKinney in Princeton. Cost of living is most affordable for young person starting out.

The Bob will look forward to your RedState postings.

Please keep us informed. my email address is and dr bob is . We hope to be involved in Gov. Perry's Pennsylvania campaign. Rick Perry will appeal to common sense voters.

 

 

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Didn't see where he quoted whosever percentages he was using.  Just a 40% number hanging out there.

It's a number often thrown out by those that don't know from where the numbers originate which is CIS.  A  good example was a colunmn by Byron York of Washington Examiner, I think.  People use these figures all the time without checking the source.  And, as I said...........I see this figure all the time.  And, it's wrong.

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thanks I have seen the 40% figure, too. good information.

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Here's a link exposing that number.  Of course none of the folks that like to throw this number around will see the refutation.

But, do the numbers.  It's obvious it's a patent lie.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/278647/perry-campaign-hits-back-cis-report-rich-lowry

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Thanks, Bob.  I got the link to here from Red State.  I'm avagreen. Eye-wink

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