08-20-12 Radnor Township Board of Commissioners (BOC) Meeting, Parts 1 - 5

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08-20-12 Radnor Township Board of Commissioners (BOC) Meeting. Part 1 of 5. In this segment: Pledge of Allegiance; Public Participation; Notice of Executive Session preceding the Board of Commissioners meeting of August 20, 2012.
(1.) Lower Merion Township's input regarding Radnor Township's ongoing support for the BMFC (Doug Cleland, Lower Merion Township Manager). (2.) BMFC Presentation (Charlie Dolan/BMFC). (3.) Approval of minutes for the Board of Commissioners meeting of July 16, 2012. (4.) Motion to accept Department Reports. (5.) Authorization for Waiver of Fees—(a.) PSATS Training Program -- Training Program. (b.) Delaware County District Attorney's Office -- Asian Community Outreach. (6.) Consideration of Appointments for the Memorial Library Board. (7.) Committee Reports. PUBLIC SAFETY: (A.) Acceptance of the Staff Traffic Committee Meeting Minutes of July 17, 2012. (B.) Adoption of Ordinance #2012-08 - Rescinding Ordinance 1991-22 dated May 28, 1991, removal of the 2 hour parking zone in front of West Wayne Elementary. (C.) Resolution 2012-96 - Main Line Chamber of Commerce 5-K Fun Run & Walk on September 23, 2012. PUBLIC WORKS & ENGINEERING: (D.) Resolution #2012-90 - Greenhouse Gas Action Plan. (E.) Resolution #2012-93 -- Requesting funding from the RECT for the construction of the N. Wayne Crosswalk. Produced by John F. Haines, Sr. email:

08-20-12 Radnor Township Board of Commissioners (BOC) Meeting. Part 2 of 5. In this segment: Public Works & Engineering (continued) -- (F.) Motion to request authorization to receive bids/proposals for the following items: 2012 Street Resurfacing Program; Installation of Pavement Markings (long lines); Gasoline and diesel fuel; Contract Engineering Services. (G.) Resolution #2012-95 - Application for the Annual Delaware County Aid for Road Resurfacing. FINANCE & AUDIT: (H.) Disbursement Summary. (I.) Resolution 2012-92 - Renewing the Township's Property, General, Auto, Police Professional, Public Officials, Employee Practice, Public Official and Umbrella Liability Insurance for the year beginning August 1, 2012 through July 31, 2013 with Travelers. (J.) Introduction of Ordinance 2012-13 - Amending Chapter 260 to change the Mercantile Tax Filing Year. (K.) Introduction of Ordinance 2012-14 - Amending Chapter 260 to combine the Business Privilege and Mercantile Annual License with the Annual Filing Requirement. (L.) Motion to approve a BPT Settlement Agreement 2012-BPT-03. (M.) Motion to approve the 2013 Budget Schedule. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT: (N.) Consideration of a Motion to approve the Certificates of Appropriateness--HARB 2012-16 -- 208 Bloomingdale Avenue, Wayne; HARB 2012-17 -- 219 Poplar Avenue, Wayne. Produced by John F. Haines, Sr. email:

08-20-12 Radnor Township Board of Commissioners (BOC) Meeting. Part 3 of 5. In this segment: COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT: Continued -- HARB 2012-17 -- 219 Poplar Avenue, Wayne. Produced by John F. Haines, Sr. email:

08-20-12 Radnor Township Board of Commissioners (BOC) Meeting. Part 4 of 5. In this segment: COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT: Continued -- HARB 2012-17 -- 219 Poplar Avenue, Wayne. Produced by John F. Haines, Sr. email:

08-20-12 Radnor Township Board of Commissioners (BOC) Meeting. Part 5 of 5. In this segment: Community Development (Continued) -- (O.) Resolution # 2012-91 - SD # 2011-S-12 (Final) Boathouse Realty Assoc., LP (Bentley Homes) to subdivide existing 4.63 acre parcel into ten (10) residential lots with construction of a cul-de-sac at 1430 County Line Rd., Villanova, Pa. (P.) 615 Newtown Rd (Discussion) Atterbury Estate, LP proposes to subdivide existing parcel into eight (Cool lots under the lot averaging provisions of the Radnor Township Zoning Ordinance with a cul-de-sac at 615 Newtown Rd. -- Discussion on waivers and modifications from the SALDO. (Q.) Adoption of Ordinance #2012-06 -- Amending Chapter 280 of the Radnor Township Code, Zoning Ordinance, by providing for regulations permitting uses not adequately or specifically defined or permitted in Radnor Township by Conditional Use. PARKS & RECREATION. PERSONNEL & ADMINISTRATION. LIBRARY. PUBLIC HEALTH. Old Business; New Business: PennDot property around I-476 Interchange at Lancaster Avenue. Public Participation. Adjournment. Produced by John F. Haines, Sr. email:

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The Lower Merion Township Manager's (Doug Cleland) statement to the Radnor Board of Commissioners starts at 25:10 in the Part 1 video of the Aug. 20th meeting. 

As John Haines's notes indicate, Manager Cleland spoke to the Radnor Board to justify Lower Merion request that Radnor pay its "equitable" share of maintaining the Bryn Mawr Fire Company (BMFC).   The BMFC provides services to both Townships.

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I wonder if Cleland noticed the hypocrisy in how he got to speak for more than three minutes.

LMT only allows citizens to speak for a meager three (3) minutes on the egg timer in township meetings.

Radnor township has no time limit for how long citizens speak – though commissioners will suggest citizens who go on and on wrap up – and it works fine.

Further, note how Radnor commissioners asked Cleland questions (as they do of all citizen speakers) and there was communication back and forth. LMT has a specific policy where commissioners will not communicate back and forth with citizens in township meetings.

Which township could be said to be more open, transparent and citizen friendly? Which township demonstrates better leadership through respect of the true owners of government - citizens?

Also interesting to note Cleland mentioned he met with Radnor’s excellent township manager Bob Z. last fall.

As I understand it, Cleland used to meet much more often over lunch with the previous Radnor township manager Dave Bashore who was fired for giving bonuses to management staff without proper commissioner approval.

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I can watch Radnor meetings out here on FiOs (yes I finally went to the dark side and have found it better than Comcast at least out here and less money)and saw this on a replay and how embarassing for every resident of Lower Merion. Cleland looked like an ass and made not so much sense. Of course, you know darn well everyone in that room knew all about his salary and perks and wondered if Lower Merion didn't spend so much money on people like Cleland what they might have money to pay for. John Fisher did a great job asking questions.

I think Bryn Mawr Fire Company is a great organization but Radnor wasn't off base asking why Bryn Mawr doesn't get more money out of the huge institutions they serve and why they don't hang onto equipment and depriciate it? Doesn't LM have a healthy equipment fund?

And it was so distasteful the way LM basically kind of threatened Radnor in a passive aggressive way if they don't get more money, wasn't it?

And I heard a long time ago that Bryn Mawr Fire Company had an endowment fund? What happened to that?

Final question, how come we always hear of this fire company needing $$$$$ and not so much the other fire companies that service Lower Merion?

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